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| What subfield are you associated with most? |
| Phonetics/Phonology |
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10% |
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| Morphology |
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3% |
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| Syntax |
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6% |
[ 4 ] |
| Semantics/Pragmatics |
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10% |
[ 7 ] |
| Socioling/Historical Ling/Dialectology |
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14% |
[ 9 ] |
| Neuro/Psycho-linguistics |
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9% |
[ 6 ] |
| Language Acquisition (L1 or L2) |
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6% |
[ 4 ] |
| Computational Linguistics |
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12% |
[ 8 ] |
| Other (please explain!) |
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26% |
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potsuwa
Joined: 06 Jul 2006
Posts: 622
Location: nomad's land
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| Seagull wrote: | | potsuwa wrote: | | (*Note: you're forbidden to do anything effortful about this till you've got time to spare!) |
*whimpers*
You and dmscvan (damn, now I want to pronounce her name with an initial [dmscv] cluster) should both move to Vancouver. You can crash at my apartment and we can write the SSHRC grant proposal to end all proposals and go hunt consonant clusters on the Northwest Coast. If we get the funding, I might even switch over to be a phonologist.  |
OKAY!!! OKAY!!
(actually, we're both already working on funding to get into the Vancouver area - well, Vancouver, Victoria...)
Perhaps this dream can become reality. (So a seagull, a turtle, and an alpaca walked into the X-bar...) |
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Seagull
Joined: 27 Jun 2006
Posts: 6343
Location: I'm in your shop, stealing your Doritos
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:31 am Post subject: |
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| potsuwa wrote: | | Perhaps this dream can become reality. (So a seagull, a turtle, and an alpaca walked into the X-bar...) |
The seagull asked for some liquid to help her creaky voice. |
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dmscvan
Joined: 30 Jun 2006
Posts: 9887
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| Seagull wrote: | | potsuwa wrote: | | (*Note: you're forbidden to do anything effortful about this till you've got time to spare!) |
*whimpers*
You and dmscvan (damn, now I want to pronounce her name with an initial [dmscv] cluster) should both move to Vancouver. You can crash at my apartment and we can write the SSHRC grant proposal to end all proposals and go hunt consonant clusters on the Northwest Coast. If we get the funding, I might even switch over to be a phonologist. |
Sounds wonderful to me!
(You know, it's funny, I've used dmscvan as a username for years and years, and it's never once occured to me to try and pronounce it until this forum. But I'd say that the two of you - with your fieldwork experience on languages with lots of consonant clusters, would be better at this than I would!)
Once, postuwa and I, along with another friend from our MA, decided we were going to put together an abstract to go to a phonetics conference in Barcelona. We decided to do it on consonant clusters (and I think sonority) because it was an area that we were all really interested. We managed to find a Berber speaker to do some recordings. We hadn't met him before and when we got him into the phonetics lab to do some recordings, it turned out he had a studder. |
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potsuwa
Joined: 06 Jul 2006
Posts: 622
Location: nomad's land
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| Seagull wrote: | | potsuwa wrote: | | Perhaps this dream can become reality. (So a seagull, a turtle, and an alpaca walked into the X-bar...) |
The seagull asked for some liquid to help her creaky voice. |
The bartender told her to just stop it already and the alpaca clicked disapprovingly. |
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Tom Rad
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Posts: 11
Location: UK
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Ooh, looks like I'm the first to vote semantics/pragmatics. My research is about word meaning - more specifically polysemy and hyponymy - so that makes me a lexical semanticist. With perhaps some pragmatics thrown in, although my cognitive linguistic-y view of things means that I don't really assume a strict separation of semantics and pragmatics.
It's funny to see phonology so well represented here. In my undergraduate years that was the subfield I wanted to specialise in. But somehow I just ended up doing semantics. I switched over to the other side of the linguistic sign, if you like - from form to meaning!
I'm also quite in awe of all you field linguists! If I was to choose my career path again, I like to think that would be the kind of thing I would veer towards doing, instead of the kind of very theoretical stuff I'm doing now... |
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Seagull
Joined: 27 Jun 2006
Posts: 6343
Location: I'm in your shop, stealing your Doritos
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| What does "hyponomy" mean? *feels sheepish* |
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dmscvan
Joined: 30 Jun 2006
Posts: 9887
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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| I never took any semantics. It's one of the few (coreish) subdisciplines that I've never taken, and really should know more than I do for what I'm doing. Plus, I think semantics is really interesting. And I really like going to lexical semantics presentations (I don't typically understand presentations on formal semantics). |
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Seagull
Joined: 27 Jun 2006
Posts: 6343
Location: I'm in your shop, stealing your Doritos
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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If I manage to get my (soon to be ex-) housemate on here, we'd have another semanticist/pragmati...st(?).
I've TA'ed both the semantics class in our undergrad series, and they've both been quite heavy on lexical semantics. I thought about doing my thesis on the semantics of classifiers, but it didn't work out that way. So now I'm a syntactician... at least that's what I tell people... |
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Dino
Joined: 27 Jun 2006
Posts: 83
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:45 am Post subject: |
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| Hah, I am a cognitive spatial scientist, but those seem not to be present. And anyway, where do you put cognitive science... SO I selected pragmatist, as I build on the pragmatic theories of communication to look at communication about space... |
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Tom Rad
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Posts: 11
Location: UK
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| Seagull wrote: | | What does "hyponomy" mean? *feels sheepish* |
Hyponymy is the semantic relation between a superordinate and a subordinate category, the type-token relationship, if you like. So cat is a hyponym of animal; animal is the hyperonym (or some people say hypernym) of cat. The phenomenon I'm studying is when you get that kind of relation between different senses of the same lexical item, like when drink can mean 'consume liquid' or, more specifically, 'consume alcohol'. |
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Tom Rad
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
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Location: UK
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| Dino wrote: | | Hah, I am a cognitive spatial scientist, but those seem not to be present. And anyway, where do you put cognitive science... SO I selected pragmatist, as I build on the pragmatic theories of communication to look at communication about space... |
That sounds interesting! What pragmatic theories are you using? Relevance Theory or a neo-Gricean approach? Are you doing any cross-linguistic comparisons of how people communicate about space? Do tell a bit more! |
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dmscvan
Joined: 30 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Tom Rad wrote: | | Seagull wrote: | | What does "hyponomy" mean? *feels sheepish* |
Hyponymy is the semantic relation between a superordinate and a subordinate category, the type-token relationship, if you like. So cat is a hyponym of animal; animal is the hyperonym (or some people say hypernym) of cat. The phenomenon I'm studying is when you get that kind of relation between different senses of the same lexical item, like when drink can mean 'consume liquid' or, more specifically, 'consume alcohol'. |
That's really cool. And it makes so much sense. I feel a little silly that I couldn't figure out what the word meant just from it's form.
I'm curious, what is your more specific topic? |
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potsuwa
Joined: 06 Jul 2006
Posts: 622
Location: nomad's land
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Tom Rad wrote: | | Relevance Theory or a neo-Gricean approach? |
There's a neo-Gricean approach? |
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Tom Rad
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Posts: 11
Location: UK
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| potsuwa wrote: | | Tom Rad wrote: | | Relevance Theory or a neo-Gricean approach? |
There's a neo-Gricean approach? |
Heh, yeah, there's a couple of pragmatic approaches that can be called that. I'm not really a big expert on pragmatics, but neo-Gricean approaches generally involve rethinking and revising the four maxims that Grice proposed. So Stephen Levinson, for example, posits only three pragmatic principles, Larry Horn two. There's more to it than that, of course, but maybe you get the basic idea...
| dmscvan wrote: | | I'm curious, what is your more specific topic? |
Well, it's just generally about that phenomenon where a single lexical form has senses that are in a hyponymous relationship - a phenomenon that has been called autohyponymy in some of the literature. So there's lots of aspects to it - how the phenomenon can be defined (including how one defines polysemy - always a tough question!), are there different types of autohyponyms, how does it develop and so on. All quite theoretical, admittedly. |
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phoo
Joined: 26 Aug 2006
Posts: 17299
Location: Dallas, TX
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Tom Rad wrote: | | Seagull wrote: | | What does "hyponomy" mean? *feels sheepish* |
Hyponymy is the semantic relation between a superordinate and a subordinate category, the type-token relationship, if you like. So cat is a hyponym of animal; animal is the hyperonym (or some people say hypernym) of cat. The phenomenon I'm studying is when you get that kind of relation between different senses of the same lexical item, like when drink can mean 'consume liquid' or, more specifically, 'consume alcohol'. |
Some additional unsolicited info for Seagull (a question like this in a geek forum is like tossing raw meat to lions  ):
Hyponym/Hypernym is sometimes confused with Meronym/Holonym, which is a part-whole relationship. paw is a Meronym of cat, and cat is a Holonym of paw, but cat is a Hyponym of animal |
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